Jon Bernie: Not necessarily. I mean, I would like to add in there all the other things that people can benefit from, at least in terms of human work. I like to say that as long as people are still identified with being somebody, then it’s ok to be a “doer.” Because you are. When you’re in openness, there isn’t a doer, so you don’t have to worry about it. So this whole idea of trying to be a non-doer is actually an oxymoron. You can’t try to not-do. So, as long as you’re identified, why not take advantage of therapy, for instance, and all the different kinds of therapy that might be helpful–if somebody needs that? If somebody needs to work on their historical material. I know some teachers today say, “Oh, no, just awareness. You don’t need to do any therapy, any meditation.” I think that’s a very narrow, fundamentalist point of view. I understand it: I think fundamentally that which transforms is that which we fundamentally are. That’s true. But I think that there’s… that from a human perspective, it’s easily misunderstood. So, I think, you know, I think it’s fine to do
practices and to sit with teachers who are
really embodying Presence and really embodying clarity so that resonate field can begin to, in a sense, remind us of who we really are. And whatever else one needs. My motto is: whatever works. One size
does not fit all. In fact, if anything, each person finds on the path what their unique challenges are and what works for them. I mean, on my own path, many, many things supported me over the years. Many practices. Yoga, meditation, you know, different kinds meditation. Different kinds of therapy, bodywork, sitting. Getting to the point where I was ready to be with somebody like Jean Klein who was an embodiment of it. I think that when people are ready, those things are very valuable. The danger is in believing and making
conclusions about how it’s going to work and what is going to work.